Should Mustafina & Nabieva’s Vaults have been downgraded? asks on Twitter:

“this” being the revised May edition of the WAG Helpdesk (a PDF document to help clarify & give examples of different rules in the FIG WAG Code of Points). The Helpdesk on page 36 of 61 states:

Gimnastas says that the Code of Points also states that in order to get the value for a twisting element you have to complete the rotations and that there are piked saltos with over 180º turn listed in the COP. Gimnastas feels that they shouldn’t have published that on the Helpdesk as it is confusing.

Watch both girls vaults here or below.

Would any judge out there care to explain to those who are still confused? There was some confusion yesterday as to why both girls vaults were downgraded.


  1. Jason says:

    I put up the answer to the questions on Rick site.

  2. Still not 100% sure, but I think this is it.

  3. The quoted text is an explanation for why their are not piked handsprings with lots of twists. Since there ARE coded vaults with half turn RO entry (similar but NOT same as handspring entry) that are piked, clearly downgrades are concieveable (else those vaults would not be listed as possible vaults). Besides, even if she didn’t get downgraded, the deduction for piking on a layout (0.3) is almost equivalent to the difficulty difference of the pike and laid out vualts (0.4).

    Oh…and the Russians are whiney babies with buttfugly vaults. USA is upholding standards. Plus Nabieva should not have gotten the Amanar in TF or Musty the triple on BB. Someone needs to enforce the standards. Russians want to skirt the limits with this crap, they can take the consequences. It’s been well known for a while that their skills were borderline. They rolled the dice and lost. Damned commies.

  4. Admin says:

    Thanks Rick, I see it started a great discussion over on your site 🙂

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